[Ford has no idea how to help here, but he can leave his hand where it is, if that's where Bill wants it. He feels a lot of sympathy here, a lot of understanding about just what circumstances Bill grew up in, about a place where being weird didn't mean you were made fun of, it meant you were dead. Where no one Bill knew, not even his family, could be trusted not to hand him in. Where everyone was afraid.]
Surely you don't believe that.
[That's the most ridiculous pseudoscience he's heard since phrenology got debunked.]
That's like saying movie stars must be geniuses because their faces are symmetrical!
[He's just messing around; he goes to beep Ford's nose.]
NAH, I KNOW. I KNEW BACK THEN! BUT, YOU KNOW, STOPPED CLOCKS, I GUESS - I JUST MEAN THAT FOR A LONG TIME I THOUGHT THEY GOT IT RIGHT WITH ME!
[The bend in his eye is shaped like a smile but looks pained. Grimace.]
IRREGULARS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE EITHER FEEBLE OR DERANGED, AND I'M A FULL-BLOWN NUTCASE. AND A LOT OF IT'S JUST HOW I POPPED OUT OF THE EGG. BEFORE LUKE TURNED INTO ME, I'D NEVER MET ANOTHER IRREGULAR. I DIDN'T KNOW IF WE WERE ALL LIKE THIS, OR WHAT.
YOU KNOW THIS STUFF ALREADY. IT DOESN'T BOTHER ME, NORMALLY. I WOULDN'T BE HALF AS GOOD AS WHAT I DO WITHOUT IT! THINGS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO HURT JUST ROLL RIGHT OFF ME. OTHER PEOPLE HESITATE AND I DON'T EVEN SLOW DOWN.
I'M THINKING A LOT MORE ABOUT IT LATELY, THOUGH. PEOPLE ARE SUPPOSED TO HESITATE ON KILLING EACH OTHER FOR A REASON ... I'M JUST DOING THE STEPS OUT OF ORDER.
I TRY TO PUT ALL OF THIS BEHIND ME. I MEAN, YOU DESERVE - YOU DESERVE TO KNOW ABOUT ME, IF YOU WANT TO KNOW. BUT I TOLD LUKE... I LIKE WHO I AM NOW. I'M MY OWN SPECIES, I CAN FLY.... THEY DON'T GET ANY CREDIT FOR MAKING ME, I MADE ME. I DON'T WANT TO GO BACKWARDS JUST TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
[He turns his hand so their fingers weave together. Would rather not dwell on it. You're only going to get this story once, and after that it'll probably be hard to get him to talk about it again, so he's going to be thorough.]
PLUS, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL JUST BECAUSE I HAD TO BE WHAT THE SHOW NEEDED FROM ME ANYWAY.
[That one is actual bitterness. THAT one he's not over.]
[He does. He wasn't based on anyone in the Director's family. He was what he needed to be. Three plot devices in a trenchcoat.
He lets their fingers be interlaced, gives a squeeze. He understands the weird mental gymnastics that's needed to be like them, the weird reality-fiction line they walk. Both things are true.]
Ah, not as much anymore. Not now that I have a plan for staying out, and getting my family out, too. I don't like it, but there's nothing I can do about it! I can't change why I was made. Besides, I'm who I am now, not what I was then. I've learned a lot. Changed a lot, too.
[You can tell the story floating back or tangled up, but--they left off with Bill's parents getting ready to kill him before he turned 14, and if it is left there, Ford will wonder forever.]
I want to know what happened -- what you remember.
[Because even if it was made up for the story, it's still important.]
[Bill would prefer to see Ford's face if he's gonna continue, so he floats back again.]
I WAS, JUST. WHERE WAS I. SCARED I WAS GONNA DIE, YEAH. WHEN PEOPLE ARE AFRAID, THEY LEARN HOW TO LIE.
[Another humorless bend of the eye.]
YOU ONLY EVER LIED TO ME SUCCESSFULLY WHEN I HAD THE KIDS, RIGHT?
[When it wasn't really a game any more.]
I WAS A LITTLE TOO, YOU KNOW, INVOLVED WITH MYSELF TO UNDERSTAND THAT EVERYBODY WAS LYING, EVERYBODY IN THE SECOND DIMENSION I EVER MET! EVERYBODY WAS PRETENDING TO BUY WHAT THEY WERE FED, TO KEEP THEMSELVES SAFE, AND KEEP THE PEOPLE WHO MADE THEM HAPPY SAFE. SOME PEOPLE REALLY DID BUY INTO ALL THAT CRAP ABOUT THE ANGLES, BUT MORE PEOPLE THAT I EVER GAVE THE WORLD CREDIT FOR WERE JUST KEEPING THEIR HEADS DOWN TO STAY ALIVE. THERE WAS APPARENTLY A WHOLE REBELLION, AND I MISSED IT! BECAUSE, EH, I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE. I DID. I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO HATED LIVING HERE, AND HATED WHAT THE LAW WAS. WHATEVER LYING THEY WERE ALL DOING, IT FOOLED ME.
[The only one in the whole world smart enough to be scared? Yeah, it sounds pretty dumb, now. Bill rubs at his eye.]
I GOT OUT OF DODGE BEFORE MY DEADLINE, OBVIOUSLY! I COULD PASS FOR AN EQUILATERAL UNLESS I WAS ACTUALLY MEASURED BY A DOCTOR, SO I STARTED PRETENDING TO BE ONE. THAT'S ONE CASTE ABOVE MY ACTUAL FAMILY'S, SO IT CAME WITH MORE PERKS! I CHANGED MY NAME. I CAUGHT UP WITH THE EDUCATION AN EQUILATERAL WAS EXPECTED TO HAVE! I FIGURED OUT HOW FAST I COULD LEARN SOMETHING WHEN I WANTED TO! PRETTY FAST, FORDSY.
[Not all of this is the magic, and Bill is arrogant to want that fact out in the open, still. He looks smug, and then - ah, right. Yeah.]
HAVING THE NUMBERS TO PROVE I WAS THE SHARPEST PERSON I KNEW JUST MADE ME THINK MORE AND MORE THAT NOBODY WAS GOING TO SOLVE MY PROBLEMS BETTER THAN ME. I TOOK A LOT OF GAMBLES ON THE FACT THAT I COULD JUST OUT-THINK ANY PROBLEM. OR THAT I COULD BE RUTHLESS ENOUGH TO TAKE A ROUTE NO ONE WOULD EXPECT. I STILL DO! I STILL DO. IT'S A MISTAKE, IT GOT ME KILLED.
[Back on that again. He's not gonna get over that. Resolving to do anything necessary to avoid very real mortality at a young age kinda fucked him up.]
ANYWAY, THE MATH! THEY DIDN'T LET EQUILATERALS GO TO UNIVERSITY EITHER, THAT WAS FOR SQUARES OR ABOVE. I DID A LOT OF THINGS THAT WEREN'T TECHNICALLY ILLEGAL, BECAUSE ILLEGAL THINGS WOULD SEND ME SOMEWHERE I DEFINITELY DIDN'T WANT TO BE, BUT WERE JUST SOCIALLY UNTHINKABLE!
[It was a form of vengeance. Bill's a petty bitch. He rubs his little hands.]
BECAUSE I WAS A DEAD GUY WALKING EITHER WAY, RIGHT? I WAS PUSHY. I WASN'T POLITE! I DIDN'T ACT LIKE A GENTLEMAN. THESE THINGS ARE A BIG DEAL, YOU GOTTA UNDERSTAND! A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE SECOND DIMENSION WOULD RATHER STAND STILL ON FIRE THAN TO LOOK A HIGHER-CLASS IN THE EYE AND TELL THEM TO GET A HOSE. I DIDN'T MAKE A LOT OF FRIENDS, I GOT A REPUTATION AS A WEIRD TROUBLEMAKER, BUT NOT ONE THAT ANYONE COULD DO ANYTHING ABOUT!
[just like here on the barge, wow! why have bad things happen to you when you can be the bad thing that happens to EVERYBODY?]
[Oh, buddy. Ford doesn't move to interrupt, or distract, but yeah -- yeah, he only managed to lie to Bill when it was the kids at stake, when he'd been scared of losing something. It isn't that Ford has a death wish, far from it! But he had accepted ages ago that if losing his life was the price he had to pay to defeat Bill, he would give it gladly.
He didn't feel the same about the kids'.
He listens, and his brows crease sympathetically as Bill admits that everyone else had had him fooled by pretending to be happy in second-dimension society. That'd be a humbling thing for anyone to realize. Those poor organisms, all of them -- what a terrible place to be.
He listens to the rest of it, about how Bill changed his name, went to school, thought he could think his way out of anything -- and about how Bill made himself a socially fearless pain in the ass. He cracks up when Bill tells him he mouthed off to more-sided citizens -- telling a hexagon to fuck himself is something he can absolutely see.]
I'm sure you did!
[ford pines is here for petty vengeance. impressed? also possibly.]
[BIG SMIRK yes he is the best at causing problems.]
IT MEANT HAD TO PROVE MY LOYALTY, A COUPLE TIMES. BUT I WAS GOOD AT THAT! EVERYBODY AROUND ME WAS JUST A DRONE, I HAD NO PROBLEM SAYING ANYTHING I NEEDED TO SAY TO THEM. OR DOING ANYTHING I NEEDED TO DO!
[Does he have mixed feelings about it, now? Kind of. Any of those people could have been in the rebellion and he made their work that much harder.]
I WAS PATIENT ENOUGH TO PLAY A LONG GAME. WELL, I GUESS YOU ALREADY KNOW.
[because of that long con he ran on ford for multiple years whoops]
EVENTUALLY, I GOT AN IN BY SUBMITTING EXAM SCORES TO PLACES THAT I KNEW I WOULDN'T GET INTO, TO PROVE I AT LEAST HAD A RESOURCE THAT COULD SERVE THE PURPOSES OF PROPER SOCIETY! I GOT NOBILITY TO HIRE ME ONTO PROJECTS THAT NEEDED MENIAL WORK IN EXCHANGE FOR NO CREDIT ON THE DISCOVERIES THEY MADE. THAT WAS FINE!
[The best at causing problems, it is a dubious title but Ford cares about him very much.
...but he sure does know how capable Bill is of long games, and how willing Bill is to throw other people under the bus. Cool to see Bill doubting that, though. Ford doesn't comment, just notes it.
Except that when Ford gets to the bit about working for no credit.]
That is not fine!
[What absolute scumbags. It's not enough what they did to the other classes, or the irregular shapes, but ooooh academic theft on top of that is too much!]
[Like constantly. Most science is just big teams of people doing lots of hours of tedious work, and then the most photogenic lab head gets in the news for all of it.]
MISTER HERO, HUH. YOU KNOW, YOU DOING ALL YOUR OWN FIELD WORK ACTUALLY ISN'T HOW IT'S USUALLY DONE.
[A little nudge under the chin this time. In another context Bill might have gotten frustrated with how much value Ford puts on Being Liked, but right now they just got back together and he's all full of fuzzy feelings.]
[but if you don't do your own field work, then how can you shut yourself up alone in a cabin for years with minimal human contact? how can you trust no one else will steal your discovery of the paranormal and go public before you can?? the only way to be safe is to go it alone!!
He accepts the chin nudge, lets it help his indignation fade. Fuzzy feelings, back together, yes ♥ ]
...for access to research an equilateral triangle wouldn't normally have?
I'D HEARD ABOUT THE THIRD DIMENSION, ANYONE WHO STUCK THEIR EYE INTO COUNTERCULTURE HAD HEARD OF IT. IT WAS KIND OF A STORY TOLD BY A GUY WHO'D DIED IN A GOVERNMENT HOSPITAL FOR MENTAL PATIENTS - HORRIFYING PLACES, BY THE WAY, REAL JAIL IS BETTER! - SO THERE WASN'T A LOT THAT WAS RELIABLE! BUT WHEREVER I WAS GOING TO BE IN ORDER TO NOT FEEL AWFUL ALL THE TIME, IT WASN'T IN THIS DIMENSION. THE CIRCLES - THAT'S THE GOVERNMENT - HAD KNOWN ABOUT IT AS LONG AS EVERYONE ELSE HAD, EVEN IF THEY DENIED IT! BUT INSTEAD OF EXPLORING IT, THEY WANTED TO CLOSE US OFF AND KEEP IT IT FROM EVER CONTACTING US AGAIN. THEY WERE PRETTY CLOSE, TOO, WHEN I GOT ONBOARD.
[Shrug.]
SEEMS CONVENIENT THAT IT LINED UP LIKE THAT, BUT IT WASN'T! THERE WAS A THREE-DIMENSIONAL FIGURE THEY WERE IN CONTACT WITH, WHO SPECIALIZED IN WORKING WITH GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES. YOU MIGHT KNOW WHERE THIS IS GOING!
SURE, I RECOGNIZED HIM AT SOME POINT. THE ONLY PERSON I TRUSTED BACK THEN WAS ME, SO I MADE SURE I CAUGHT HIS EYE. THEN WE WERE ABLE TO WORK FROM BOTH ENDS OF THE DIMENSIONAL BARRIER! THEY MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS WITH ME. WITH US! I WAS WHERE I NEEDED TO BE, BECAUSE I'D ARRIVED IN TIME FOR MYSELF.
[Bill thinks, taps his foot.]
...LOOK, TIME TRAVEL IS FUN, BUT IT'S HARD TO WORK INTO A STORY.
THE FUTURE VERSION OF ME TOLD ME THAT WE WERE GOING TO MAKE A DEAL. THAT SOUNDED FUN - I LIKED THE IDEA OF BOTH OF US NOT BOTHERING TO PRETEND WE WEREN'T SELF-INTERESTED. EVERYTHING ABOVE THE TABLE! HE SAID HE'D GET ME OUT, AND THAT WAS EVEN BETTER. I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE WE WERE GOING, BUT, SURE, JUST ABOUT ANYTHING'S BETTER THAN THE SECOND DIMENSION. I ALSO DIDN'T KNOW THAT WHEN TWO DIMENSIONAL COUNTERPARTS TOUCH, THE PARADOX COLLAPSES THE WHOLE THING.
[Bill turns a shaking-hands-with-himself gesture into a flat clapping motion - boom.]
SURE! SINCE I MADE THE DEAL HAPPEN FROM BOTH ENDS, I COULD EXPLAIN THE MECHANICS TO YOU, BUT A WHOLE UNIVERSE CEASING TO EXIST AT THE SAME TIME DOESN'T ACTUALLY GO NOWHERE. 'CEASE TO EXIST' IS KIND OF AN OVERSIMPLIFICATION. ALL THE MATTER COMES APART, BUT DOESN'T GET DESTROYED. A SUFFICIENTLY POWERFUL ENTITY CAN CONVERT IT STRAIGHT TO ENERGY!
THAT HURT A LOT, BUT THAT'S HOW I ENDED UP LIKE THIS!
...
THE NEXT TRILLION YEARS ARE LESS IMPORTANT! A LOT OF BEING ALONE IN BETWEEN UNIVERSES.
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Date: 2019-12-19 01:49 am (UTC)Surely you don't believe that.
[That's the most ridiculous pseudoscience he's heard since phrenology got debunked.]
That's like saying movie stars must be geniuses because their faces are symmetrical!
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Date: 2019-12-19 04:41 am (UTC)[He's just messing around; he goes to beep Ford's nose.]
NAH, I KNOW. I KNEW BACK THEN! BUT, YOU KNOW, STOPPED CLOCKS, I GUESS - I JUST MEAN THAT FOR A LONG TIME I THOUGHT THEY GOT IT RIGHT WITH ME!
[The bend in his eye is shaped like a smile but looks pained. Grimace.]
IRREGULARS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE EITHER FEEBLE OR DERANGED, AND I'M A FULL-BLOWN NUTCASE. AND A LOT OF IT'S JUST HOW I POPPED OUT OF THE EGG. BEFORE LUKE TURNED INTO ME, I'D NEVER MET ANOTHER IRREGULAR. I DIDN'T KNOW IF WE WERE ALL LIKE THIS, OR WHAT.
YOU KNOW THIS STUFF ALREADY. IT DOESN'T BOTHER ME, NORMALLY. I WOULDN'T BE HALF AS GOOD AS WHAT I DO WITHOUT IT! THINGS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO HURT JUST ROLL RIGHT OFF ME. OTHER PEOPLE HESITATE AND I DON'T EVEN SLOW DOWN.
I'M THINKING A LOT MORE ABOUT IT LATELY, THOUGH. PEOPLE ARE SUPPOSED TO HESITATE ON KILLING EACH OTHER FOR A REASON ... I'M JUST DOING THE STEPS OUT OF ORDER.
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Date: 2019-12-19 03:04 pm (UTC)And, when Bill goes on, and talks about doing the steps out of order:]
Well, you're not the only one. It is a ship full of people who are figuring out when they shouldn't kill each other!
[That's said with a roll of his eyes, but then, he asks a more serious question.]
...would you want to meet another irregular? If you could.
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Date: 2019-12-19 05:13 pm (UTC)[That's an easy answer.]
I TRY TO PUT ALL OF THIS BEHIND ME. I MEAN, YOU DESERVE - YOU DESERVE TO KNOW ABOUT ME, IF YOU WANT TO KNOW. BUT I TOLD LUKE... I LIKE WHO I AM NOW. I'M MY OWN SPECIES, I CAN FLY.... THEY DON'T GET ANY CREDIT FOR MAKING ME, I MADE ME. I DON'T WANT TO GO BACKWARDS JUST TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
[He turns his hand so their fingers weave together. Would rather not dwell on it. You're only going to get this story once, and after that it'll probably be hard to get him to talk about it again, so he's going to be thorough.]
PLUS, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL JUST BECAUSE I HAD TO BE WHAT THE SHOW NEEDED FROM ME ANYWAY.
[That one is actual bitterness. THAT one he's not over.]
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Date: 2019-12-19 05:26 pm (UTC)[He does. He wasn't based on anyone in the Director's family. He was what he needed to be. Three plot devices in a trenchcoat.
He lets their fingers be interlaced, gives a squeeze. He understands the weird mental gymnastics that's needed to be like them, the weird reality-fiction line they walk. Both things are true.]
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Date: 2019-12-19 05:34 pm (UTC)[Quiet. It also really bothers Bill, but he's more resentful than ...whatever this is from Ford. Sad? Self-worth problems?]
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Date: 2019-12-19 05:44 pm (UTC)Ah, not as much anymore. Not now that I have a plan for staying out, and getting my family out, too. I don't like it, but there's nothing I can do about it! I can't change why I was made. Besides, I'm who I am now, not what I was then. I've learned a lot. Changed a lot, too.
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Date: 2019-12-19 05:50 pm (UTC)D'YOU EVEN WANT TO KNOW THE REST? I JUST... THOUGHT I WAS BETTER THAN EVERYBODY AND MADE A BUNCH OF DUMB CALLS.
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Date: 2019-12-19 06:34 pm (UTC)[You can tell the story floating back or tangled up, but--they left off with Bill's parents getting ready to kill him before he turned 14, and if it is left there, Ford will wonder forever.]
I want to know what happened -- what you remember.
[Because even if it was made up for the story, it's still important.]
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Date: 2019-12-19 07:12 pm (UTC)I WAS, JUST. WHERE WAS I. SCARED I WAS GONNA DIE, YEAH. WHEN PEOPLE ARE AFRAID, THEY LEARN HOW TO LIE.
[Another humorless bend of the eye.]
YOU ONLY EVER LIED TO ME SUCCESSFULLY WHEN I HAD THE KIDS, RIGHT?
[When it wasn't really a game any more.]
I WAS A LITTLE TOO, YOU KNOW, INVOLVED WITH MYSELF TO UNDERSTAND THAT EVERYBODY WAS LYING, EVERYBODY IN THE SECOND DIMENSION I EVER MET! EVERYBODY WAS PRETENDING TO BUY WHAT THEY WERE FED, TO KEEP THEMSELVES SAFE, AND KEEP THE PEOPLE WHO MADE THEM HAPPY SAFE. SOME PEOPLE REALLY DID BUY INTO ALL THAT CRAP ABOUT THE ANGLES, BUT MORE PEOPLE THAT I EVER GAVE THE WORLD CREDIT FOR WERE JUST KEEPING THEIR HEADS DOWN TO STAY ALIVE. THERE WAS APPARENTLY A WHOLE REBELLION, AND I MISSED IT! BECAUSE, EH, I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE. I DID. I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO HATED LIVING HERE, AND HATED WHAT THE LAW WAS. WHATEVER LYING THEY WERE ALL DOING, IT FOOLED ME.
[The only one in the whole world smart enough to be scared? Yeah, it sounds pretty dumb, now. Bill rubs at his eye.]
I GOT OUT OF DODGE BEFORE MY DEADLINE, OBVIOUSLY! I COULD PASS FOR AN EQUILATERAL UNLESS I WAS ACTUALLY MEASURED BY A DOCTOR, SO I STARTED PRETENDING TO BE ONE. THAT'S ONE CASTE ABOVE MY ACTUAL FAMILY'S, SO IT CAME WITH MORE PERKS! I CHANGED MY NAME. I CAUGHT UP WITH THE EDUCATION AN EQUILATERAL WAS EXPECTED TO HAVE! I FIGURED OUT HOW FAST I COULD LEARN SOMETHING WHEN I WANTED TO! PRETTY FAST, FORDSY.
[Not all of this is the magic, and Bill is arrogant to want that fact out in the open, still. He looks smug, and then - ah, right. Yeah.]
HAVING THE NUMBERS TO PROVE I WAS THE SHARPEST PERSON I KNEW JUST MADE ME THINK MORE AND MORE THAT NOBODY WAS GOING TO SOLVE MY PROBLEMS BETTER THAN ME. I TOOK A LOT OF GAMBLES ON THE FACT THAT I COULD JUST OUT-THINK ANY PROBLEM. OR THAT I COULD BE RUTHLESS ENOUGH TO TAKE A ROUTE NO ONE WOULD EXPECT. I STILL DO! I STILL DO. IT'S A MISTAKE, IT GOT ME KILLED.
[Back on that again. He's not gonna get over that. Resolving to do anything necessary to avoid very real mortality at a young age kinda fucked him up.]
ANYWAY, THE MATH! THEY DIDN'T LET EQUILATERALS GO TO UNIVERSITY EITHER, THAT WAS FOR SQUARES OR ABOVE. I DID A LOT OF THINGS THAT WEREN'T TECHNICALLY ILLEGAL, BECAUSE ILLEGAL THINGS WOULD SEND ME SOMEWHERE I DEFINITELY DIDN'T WANT TO BE, BUT WERE JUST SOCIALLY UNTHINKABLE!
[It was a form of vengeance. Bill's a petty bitch. He rubs his little hands.]
BECAUSE I WAS A DEAD GUY WALKING EITHER WAY, RIGHT? I WAS PUSHY. I WASN'T POLITE! I DIDN'T ACT LIKE A GENTLEMAN. THESE THINGS ARE A BIG DEAL, YOU GOTTA UNDERSTAND! A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE SECOND DIMENSION WOULD RATHER STAND STILL ON FIRE THAN TO LOOK A HIGHER-CLASS IN THE EYE AND TELL THEM TO GET A HOSE. I DIDN'T MAKE A LOT OF FRIENDS, I GOT A REPUTATION AS A WEIRD TROUBLEMAKER, BUT NOT ONE THAT ANYONE COULD DO ANYTHING ABOUT!
[just like here on the barge, wow! why have bad things happen to you when you can be the bad thing that happens to EVERYBODY?]
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Date: 2019-12-19 08:21 pm (UTC)He didn't feel the same about the kids'.
He listens, and his brows crease sympathetically as Bill admits that everyone else had had him fooled by pretending to be happy in second-dimension society. That'd be a humbling thing for anyone to realize. Those poor organisms, all of them -- what a terrible place to be.
He listens to the rest of it, about how Bill changed his name, went to school, thought he could think his way out of anything -- and about how Bill made himself a socially fearless pain in the ass. He cracks up when Bill tells him he mouthed off to more-sided citizens -- telling a hexagon to fuck himself is something he can absolutely see.]
I'm sure you did!
[ford pines is here for petty vengeance. impressed? also possibly.]
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Date: 2019-12-19 09:29 pm (UTC)IT MEANT HAD TO PROVE MY LOYALTY, A COUPLE TIMES. BUT I WAS GOOD AT THAT! EVERYBODY AROUND ME WAS JUST A DRONE, I HAD NO PROBLEM SAYING ANYTHING I NEEDED TO SAY TO THEM. OR DOING ANYTHING I NEEDED TO DO!
[Does he have mixed feelings about it, now? Kind of. Any of those people could have been in the rebellion and he made their work that much harder.]
I WAS PATIENT ENOUGH TO PLAY A LONG GAME. WELL, I GUESS YOU ALREADY KNOW.
[because of that long con he ran on ford for multiple years whoops]
EVENTUALLY, I GOT AN IN BY SUBMITTING EXAM SCORES TO PLACES THAT I KNEW I WOULDN'T GET INTO, TO PROVE I AT LEAST HAD A RESOURCE THAT COULD SERVE THE PURPOSES OF PROPER SOCIETY! I GOT NOBILITY TO HIRE ME ONTO PROJECTS THAT NEEDED MENIAL WORK IN EXCHANGE FOR NO CREDIT ON THE DISCOVERIES THEY MADE. THAT WAS FINE!
[its just kind of the way shit works.]
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Date: 2019-12-19 09:49 pm (UTC)...but he sure does know how capable Bill is of long games, and how willing Bill is to throw other people under the bus. Cool to see Bill doubting that, though. Ford doesn't comment, just notes it.
Except that when Ford gets to the bit about working for no credit.]
That is not fine!
[What absolute scumbags. It's not enough what they did to the other classes, or the irregular shapes, but ooooh academic theft on top of that is too much!]
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Date: 2019-12-19 10:04 pm (UTC)[Like constantly. Most science is just big teams of people doing lots of hours of tedious work, and then the most photogenic lab head gets in the news for all of it.]
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Date: 2019-12-19 10:32 pm (UTC)[A little nudge under the chin this time. In another context Bill might have gotten frustrated with how much value Ford puts on Being Liked, but right now they just got back together and he's all full of fuzzy feelings.]
I KNEW WHAT I WAS DOING. I WAS USING THEM, TOO.
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Date: 2019-12-19 10:37 pm (UTC)He accepts the chin nudge, lets it help his indignation fade. Fuzzy feelings, back together, yes ♥ ]
...for access to research an equilateral triangle wouldn't normally have?
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Date: 2019-12-19 11:02 pm (UTC)I'D HEARD ABOUT THE THIRD DIMENSION, ANYONE WHO STUCK THEIR EYE INTO COUNTERCULTURE HAD HEARD OF IT. IT WAS KIND OF A STORY TOLD BY A GUY WHO'D DIED IN A GOVERNMENT HOSPITAL FOR MENTAL PATIENTS - HORRIFYING PLACES, BY THE WAY, REAL JAIL IS BETTER! - SO THERE WASN'T A LOT THAT WAS RELIABLE! BUT WHEREVER I WAS GOING TO BE IN ORDER TO NOT FEEL AWFUL ALL THE TIME, IT WASN'T IN THIS DIMENSION. THE CIRCLES - THAT'S THE GOVERNMENT - HAD KNOWN ABOUT IT AS LONG AS EVERYONE ELSE HAD, EVEN IF THEY DENIED IT! BUT INSTEAD OF EXPLORING IT, THEY WANTED TO CLOSE US OFF AND KEEP IT IT FROM EVER CONTACTING US AGAIN. THEY WERE PRETTY CLOSE, TOO, WHEN I GOT ONBOARD.
[Shrug.]
SEEMS CONVENIENT THAT IT LINED UP LIKE THAT, BUT IT WASN'T! THERE WAS A THREE-DIMENSIONAL FIGURE THEY WERE IN CONTACT WITH, WHO SPECIALIZED IN WORKING WITH GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES. YOU MIGHT KNOW WHERE THIS IS GOING!
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Date: 2019-12-19 11:17 pm (UTC)It was you! You went back in time, made contact with your old dimension, and helped your past self destroy it?
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Date: 2019-12-19 11:21 pm (UTC)I CAN NORMALLY MOVE FREELY BETWEEN THE PAST AND FUTURE. I DON'T DO IT A LOT, BECAUSE TIME BABY GETS IN THE WAY -
[Fucking hate that guy]
BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I GOT CREATED. IF YOU WANT SOMETHING DONE RIGHT...
[You do it yourself!
He illustrates this with almost tying his arms in knots showing the paths of the timeline crossing over itself.]
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Date: 2019-12-20 02:29 am (UTC)Did you realize you were you?
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Date: 2019-12-20 02:41 am (UTC)[Bill thinks, taps his foot.]
...LOOK, TIME TRAVEL IS FUN, BUT IT'S HARD TO WORK INTO A STORY.
THE FUTURE VERSION OF ME TOLD ME THAT WE WERE GOING TO MAKE A DEAL. THAT SOUNDED FUN - I LIKED THE IDEA OF BOTH OF US NOT BOTHERING TO PRETEND WE WEREN'T SELF-INTERESTED. EVERYTHING ABOVE THE TABLE! HE SAID HE'D GET ME OUT, AND THAT WAS EVEN BETTER. I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE WE WERE GOING, BUT, SURE, JUST ABOUT ANYTHING'S BETTER THAN THE SECOND DIMENSION. I ALSO DIDN'T KNOW THAT WHEN TWO DIMENSIONAL COUNTERPARTS TOUCH, THE PARADOX COLLAPSES THE WHOLE THING.
[Bill turns a shaking-hands-with-himself gesture into a flat clapping motion - boom.]
WE MANAGED IT, THOUGH. WASN'T EVERYBODY SURPRISED! HEH, HAHAH, HAHAHAAHAH -
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Date: 2019-12-20 03:38 am (UTC)...I should've guessed. That is the simplest way to destabilize a universe.
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Date: 2019-12-20 03:44 am (UTC)THAT HURT A LOT, BUT THAT'S HOW I ENDED UP LIKE THIS!
...
THE NEXT TRILLION YEARS ARE LESS IMPORTANT! A LOT OF BEING ALONE IN BETWEEN UNIVERSES.
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Date: 2019-12-20 03:57 am (UTC)[Holy shit. An entire dimension, turned into energy, and used to turn Bill into what he is.
He doesn't need the mechanics, he pretty much gets the idea.
Whoa.]
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