Fucking fuck, Bill is absolutely doing this to get a reaction out of him. Once he's done taking a second to be speechless at the audacity, he shakes a finger at Bill.
"I'm not answering that." Don't dignify it with a response, Ford.
So, big yes from Ford. The moment of speechlessness gets more giggles.
"IF YOU WANT ME TO TRUST YOU TO TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF, THAT WAS MY LAST REASON TO NOT TRY SOMETHING."
Bill... likes this human very much. Ridiculous man. Endearing. Horribly honest. Brilliant - and so dense. Trusting him and treating him well might mean letting Ford decide what's best for Ford, even when that decision is stupid. Bill wants Ford safe more than he wants Ford happy with him ... but a very safe, very unhappy Ford was the same mistake that other Bill made, wasn't it.
"You tricked me into it the first time, and this time I have very good reasons!"
Man, he doesn't even sound actually mad about it when he talks about being tricked. The personal anger's cooled down a lot in the last several weeks. The energy in Ford's accusation is the same as before: flustered and defending his decisions without a sense of immediate high stakes.
Ford cuts himself off. Wow, that sure almost slipped out, didn't it. Nope, Bill's drifting off, better accept this dodged bullet and this reprieve from talking about making a very poor choice.
That's just....bad. For nebulous reasons Ford is having trouble defining.
Bill Cipher is a bad person. So is Ford, sometimes.
Bill Cipher does bad things. So does Ford.
Bill Cipher isn't trying to be a better person. But he is trying to treat Ford well enough that Ford doesn't leave, and he's changing whether he wants to or not.
Bill Cipher kissing is something his family wouldn't understand. His family is not here, and seeing them again is a nebulous goal, pushed further down the line than it was when Ford came to the Barge. Who knows what's going to happen between now and then? The shape of his future is very, very unclear.
Bill doesn't know how to stop manipulating him. But they're talking about it?
Bill is going to take over an unsuspecting dimension without mercy. But Ford already softened the effects of his plans, prevented a lot of harm. He's doing good, by being here. And the dimensional takeover was going to happen sooner or later.
Wow, he is having a very hard time pinning down a good, concrete reason. Having to think through the champagne buzz is making it even harder.
Bill does look very available. But this is Ford Pines, and as good as he is at kissing people, when it happens, he is even better at talking himself out of kissing, especially when the pressure's off. He can do this. The champagne feels like thick cotton in his forebrain.
Bill might just be making fun of him. Bill might be making fun of him and sincerely want to kiss him.
But either way, he should definitely not do it. The answer, clearly, is to take another sip of the champagne. "...never mind."
"LOOK, I SAID I WASN'T GONNA MANAGE. YOU - YOU SEEM LIKE YOU WANT TO, BUT IT'S NOT MY CALL TO MAKE WHETHER WANTING TO IS ENOUGH."
He frowns.
"RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT? That sounds like something a person would say, yeah. TRUTH BE TOLD, I'M NOT GOING TO SWEAT IT IF WE DON'T DO THE HUMAN SQUISHY MOUTH THING. I MEAN, IT'S SAD, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOOD AT IT, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA KEEP ME UP AT NIGHT. I JUST LIKE THE WAY YOU LIKE ME. I LIKE THE THINGS YOU THINK ABOUT ME! I LIKE TO BE IMPORTANT TO YOU! YOU'RE IMPORTANT TO ME TOO, I GUESS."
Ford's going to stand there a moment, speechless again.
He's kind of forgotten that he's holding a glass.
"The, um. The imagination spell. It hasn't progressed enough to generate constructs, has it? The-- there isn't going to be another Bill who doesn't feel that way coming in in a minute, right?"
Because yes a Bill who is game to kiss him but respects a no and who talks about liking him and how he's good at kissing in a way that is somehow not embarrassing and to whom he, Ford, is important, dangerously resembles a figment of his imagination.
-- he's barely even annoyed. He's kind of not. There's like the ghost of an annoyance that's haunting out of a sense of obligation.
"Well, that makes two of us," Ford replies. "On, uh...on all of that."
A thought occurs to him, and he laughs, small but warmer than the one before. "You know, I really thought that kissing you would be a bad idea because it'd make it harder for me to kill you," he says. "This was back when we were singing at each other. It looks like I didn't need to kiss you for that to be a problem!" Another laugh, at himself, at the whole situation.
Making it harder to kill Ford isn't the right term, but it'll already hurt a lot if Bill has to. He's already given things up to try to make it less likely. Preventative measures didn't do much.
"...LISTEN, THE REASON THIS IS HAPPENING NOW IS THAT MICK VANISHED THE OTHER DAY. THE GUY THAT SAVED US BOTH FROM THE GHOST WIZARD AND HIS STUPID BLOOD THING. I DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE I WAS GOING TO MISS HIM UNTIL IT WAS TOO LATE."
...Ford could tell him from experience exactly what that what-if is like. He usually doesn't even try. And they disappear. Or he disappears into the next dimension. Or they get married, and they're better off without him. And it can be gotten over and moved on from, except Ford's never really gotten over it, has he? The what-ifs and the regrets, he ignores them most of the time but they're still there, waiting to pop up again the next time something reminds him of what he wanted but never had.
"If your plan works, we'll be in a new world soon," Ford suggests, instead of sharing any of those regrets. "One where people don't vanish for extradimensional reasons beyond their understanding."
"PEOPLE ALSO DIE PERMANENTLY OUTSIDE OF THE BARGE! I CAN'T TELL IF YOU'RE SAYING I SHOULDN'T HAVE TOLD YOU THIS OR IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GET ME TO RUN AWAY WITH YOU."
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Date: 2019-05-13 04:57 am (UTC)But he's not worrying about the countdown now, is he? Bill wins.
"D'YOU WANNA DO IT AGAIN?"
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Date: 2019-05-13 05:05 am (UTC)"I'm not answering that." Don't dignify it with a response, Ford.
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Date: 2019-05-13 05:57 am (UTC)"IF YOU WANT ME TO TRUST YOU TO TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF, THAT WAS MY LAST REASON TO NOT TRY SOMETHING."
Bill... likes this human very much. Ridiculous man. Endearing. Horribly honest. Brilliant - and so dense. Trusting him and treating him well might mean letting Ford decide what's best for Ford, even when that decision is stupid. Bill wants Ford safe more than he wants Ford happy with him ... but a very safe, very unhappy Ford was the same mistake that other Bill made, wasn't it.
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Date: 2019-05-13 06:05 am (UTC)No gesture.
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Date: 2019-05-13 06:09 am (UTC)"YEAH, SO'S PUNCHING A HOLE IN THE UNIVERSE TWICE."
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Date: 2019-05-13 01:45 pm (UTC)Man, he doesn't even sound actually mad about it when he talks about being tricked. The personal anger's cooled down a lot in the last several weeks. The energy in Ford's accusation is the same as before: flustered and defending his decisions without a sense of immediate high stakes.
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Date: 2019-05-14 02:10 am (UTC)Ford cuts himself off. Wow, that sure almost slipped out, didn't it. Nope, Bill's drifting off, better accept this dodged bullet and this reprieve from talking about making a very poor choice.
That's just....bad. For nebulous reasons Ford is having trouble defining.
Bill Cipher is a bad person. So is Ford, sometimes.
Bill Cipher does bad things. So does Ford.
Bill Cipher isn't trying to be a better person. But he is trying to treat Ford well enough that Ford doesn't leave, and he's changing whether he wants to or not.
Bill Cipher kissing is something his family wouldn't understand. His family is not here, and seeing them again is a nebulous goal, pushed further down the line than it was when Ford came to the Barge. Who knows what's going to happen between now and then? The shape of his future is very, very unclear.
Bill doesn't know how to stop manipulating him. But they're talking about it?
Bill is going to take over an unsuspecting dimension without mercy. But Ford already softened the effects of his plans, prevented a lot of harm. He's doing good, by being here. And the dimensional takeover was going to happen sooner or later.
Wow, he is having a very hard time pinning down a good, concrete reason. Having to think through the champagne buzz is making it even harder.
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Date: 2019-05-14 02:41 am (UTC)Didn't what, Ford.
Just gonna let him stew in it. Just gonna look so available over here.
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Date: 2019-05-14 06:30 pm (UTC)Bill might just be making fun of him. Bill might be making fun of him and sincerely want to kiss him.
But either way, he should definitely not do it. The answer, clearly, is to take another sip of the champagne. "...never mind."
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Date: 2019-05-14 08:56 pm (UTC)"LOOK, I SAID I WASN'T GONNA MANAGE. YOU - YOU SEEM LIKE YOU WANT TO, BUT IT'S NOT MY CALL TO MAKE WHETHER WANTING TO IS ENOUGH."
He frowns.
"RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT? That sounds like something a person would say, yeah. TRUTH BE TOLD, I'M NOT GOING TO SWEAT IT IF WE DON'T DO THE HUMAN SQUISHY MOUTH THING. I MEAN, IT'S SAD, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOOD AT IT, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA KEEP ME UP AT NIGHT. I JUST LIKE THE WAY YOU LIKE ME. I LIKE THE THINGS YOU THINK ABOUT ME! I LIKE TO BE IMPORTANT TO YOU! YOU'RE IMPORTANT TO ME TOO, I GUESS."
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Date: 2019-05-15 12:07 am (UTC)Ford's going to stand there a moment, speechless again.
He's kind of forgotten that he's holding a glass.
"The, um. The imagination spell. It hasn't progressed enough to generate constructs, has it? The-- there isn't going to be another Bill who doesn't feel that way coming in in a minute, right?"
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Date: 2019-05-15 03:56 am (UTC)"NOT IN A MINUTE! WE HAVE..."
The countdown announces: FOURTEEN MINUTES TO NEXT BREACH.
"A COUPLE MORE CYCLES OF LISTENING TO HER. I'D SAY AT LEAST THREE OR FOUR DAYS."
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Date: 2019-05-15 04:14 am (UTC)Ohhh god.
"You...really feel that way?"
Oh god oh god.
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Date: 2019-05-15 04:21 am (UTC)And he's starting to get concerned, because this is not as immediately rewarding and positive as he was expecting it to be.
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Date: 2019-05-15 04:43 am (UTC)"I like being important to you, too," he admits simply, when he looks up. "It's still hard to believe sometimes that that's even possible."
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Date: 2019-05-15 04:48 am (UTC)"DID YOU THINK IT WAS THE SPELL?"
Did he get it that right?
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Date: 2019-05-15 04:52 am (UTC)Because yes a Bill who is game to kiss him but respects a no and who talks about liking him and how he's good at kissing in a way that is somehow not embarrassing and to whom he, Ford, is important, dangerously resembles a figment of his imagination.
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Date: 2019-05-15 04:58 am (UTC)And that needs a sanity check on Bill's end. He doubles back on the conversation. Did he mean everything he said?
"MAYBE I'M MOVING TOO FAST? I DON'T KNOW, IT'S NOT LIKE I LOVE YOU, I JUST THINK YOU'RE PRETTY NEAT."
Pats Ford on the head. Pat pat.
"I'M A LITTLE DRUNK."
:D
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Date: 2019-05-15 03:46 pm (UTC)-- he's barely even annoyed. He's kind of not. There's like the ghost of an annoyance that's haunting out of a sense of obligation.
"Well, that makes two of us," Ford replies. "On, uh...on all of that."
A thought occurs to him, and he laughs, small but warmer than the one before. "You know, I really thought that kissing you would be a bad idea because it'd make it harder for me to kill you," he says. "This was back when we were singing at each other. It looks like I didn't need to kiss you for that to be a problem!" Another laugh, at himself, at the whole situation.
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Date: 2019-05-15 04:33 pm (UTC)Making it harder to kill Ford isn't the right term, but it'll already hurt a lot if Bill has to. He's already given things up to try to make it less likely. Preventative measures didn't do much.
"...LISTEN, THE REASON THIS IS HAPPENING NOW IS THAT MICK VANISHED THE OTHER DAY. THE GUY THAT SAVED US BOTH FROM THE GHOST WIZARD AND HIS STUPID BLOOD THING. I DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE I WAS GOING TO MISS HIM UNTIL IT WAS TOO LATE."
Bill glares at his glass.
"THIS IS DUMB. EMOTIONS ARE STUPID!"
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Date: 2019-05-15 04:58 pm (UTC)He reaches over and touches Bill -- that triangle-equivalent-of-a-shoulder-touch thing he does.
"Emotions can be pretty stupid," he agrees, quieter and sympathetic. "I'm sorry you lost your friend."
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Date: 2019-05-15 09:30 pm (UTC)"I ALREADY LOST YOU ONCE, TOO. I KNOW, IT WAS A DIFFERENT FORD AND YOU DON'T REMEMBER, BUT WHAT IF YOU DISAPPEAR AND I NEVER EVEN TRIED, Y'KNOW?"
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Date: 2019-05-16 04:42 pm (UTC)"If your plan works, we'll be in a new world soon," Ford suggests, instead of sharing any of those regrets. "One where people don't vanish for extradimensional reasons beyond their understanding."
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Date: 2019-05-16 09:40 pm (UTC)It could really go either way.
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