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[personal profile] tetractys 2018-04-13 01:06 pm (UTC)(link)
THAT WAS RHETORICAL! WHY ARE YOU LIKE THIS?
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[personal profile] tetractys 2018-04-13 02:28 pm (UTC)(link)
WHAT THE HECK DID I JUST SAY ABOUT EXPLAINING THIS TO ME??

IT WAS FUN! YOU COULD HAVE QUIT AND SETTLED DOWN IF YOU WERE THAT MISERABLE, AND I COULD HAVE IGNORED YOU, BUT WE DIDN'T! AND YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!

I THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO DIE THE FIRST MONTH, BUT YOU DIDN'T DIE OR GIVE UP AND THEN IT WAS FIVE YEARS, AND TEN - YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO HAVE SOMEONE GET UP EVERY DAY FOR TEN YEARS AND THINK ABOUT YOU?

YOU STARTED GETTING GREY AND I REALIZED I DIDN'T WANT YOU TO JUST DIE OFF, THAT WOULDN'T BE RIGHT, BECAUSE YOU WERE PROVING YOU COULD ACTUALLY DO THIS. I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS THAT UNIQUE AT THE TIME BUT THERE IS NO ONE ELSE. I'VE BEEN LOOKING! THEY DON'T CARE OR THEY'RE NOT RIGHT, THEY'RE NOT YOU!

AND NOW YOU'RE NOT EVEN YOU!
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[personal profile] tetractys 2018-04-13 04:39 pm (UTC)(link)
NOBODY CARES ABOUT ANYBODY, YOU'RE DELUSIONAL!

LIKE YOU'RE REALLY GOING TO TRUST ANYTHING ELSE FROM ME!
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[personal profile] tetractys 2018-04-13 05:24 pm (UTC)(link)
[Why are you asking him???? This is way further than Bill thought he was going to get.

Bill clicks the video back on. He's back in his room, but the golf club he's holding has a big dent.]


I DON'T EVEN KNOW! I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WANT ANY MORE!

[Ring says true.]
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[personal profile] tetractys 2018-04-13 07:40 pm (UTC)(link)
[YEAH KIND OF A WHILE FORD.

Bill sounds huffy.]
NO.

[Lie.]

KIND OF. IF THAT WAS WORKING I'D BE DOING THAT, BUT IT'S NOT! IF BEING NICE TO YOU WOULD WORK I'D DO THAT! I'VE DONE THAT BEFORE, YOU LIKED IT.

[True. It's an ironic symmetry. Bill needed Ford WAY more than Ford needed him then, but just because of the portal.]
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[personal profile] tetractys 2018-04-13 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
DO YOU WANT ME TO BE SORRY?

[uHHHHH that might be a tall order, champ, he's not sure he's capable of that!

There's just a couple emotions he can mimic well enough but he's never actually experienced? Most of the 'sad' spectrum. He's never really been able to mourn, or regret, or anything like that. There's just a funny blank spot where he knows he maybe shouldn't have done something but doesn't feel any particular way related to that knowledge.]
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[personal profile] tetractys 2018-04-14 02:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I KNOW.

[True.]

FOR SOMEONE HUNG UP ON WHAT'S TRUE AND WHAT'S A LIE, YOU'RE REALLY GOING ALL-IN ON THIS SUDDEN IMPULSE TO CONNECT. THEY'RE EXPLOITING HOW EASY IT IS TO WIN YOU OVER, YA KNOW. BUT ARE THEY GONNA STAY FOR THIRTY YEARS? OR HAVE YOU NEVER HAD ANYBODY BESIDES ME STAY THAT LONG, BECAUSE YOU REPLACED THEM WITH SOMETHING NEW AND EXCITING?

[Both true and designed to twist and manipulate what's actually happening, which is Ford getting out of a frankly horribly abusive interpersonal connection. You can't even reasonably call this a friendship, since neither of them are pretending to like each other.]

I BROKE YOUR DEAL. I CAN'T UN-HURT ANYBODY. THAT'S ALL I GOT. CONSIDER ME GONE.

[True. He sounds bitter this time. He actually has no idea if Ford's going to regret this but he needs to cut his losses like he should have way earlier on. He's really good at predicting that people don't give a damn. It becomes a self-fulfulling prophecy. Most prophecies are.]
Edited (rogue h) 2018-04-14 14:38 (UTC)
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[personal profile] tetractys 2018-04-14 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
[He was talking about the other Pines, first off. Bill's not half as jealous of anybody Ford's going to find in this crowd of chucklefucks. Pine Tree et al are a PROBLEM.

But, he doesn't get the misunderstanding, and the next part's more important anyway. Bill's expression pinches; his brow folds to a stressed little peak in the middle. If Ford was any good, he'd already have the answer just from this, but -

Ford's no good. That's one of the reasons Bill can just relax around him, because Ford CAN surprise Bill, sometimes, but Bill still doesn't need to be actually careful the way he would around, say, Erskine, or Cold. He can afford to telegraph a little. It's safe. (Alright, maybe that's a little far. SafER. Bill is ultimately not worried about anything Ford could do to him.)]


YES.

[Ring flashes. Lie. Bill's expression twists even more.]

IT'S ...SOMETHING YOU WANTED, AND I COULD DO IT.

LIKE I SAID. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT YOU WANT OUT OF ME ANY MORE.


[True.]
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[personal profile] tetractys 2018-04-15 04:37 am (UTC)(link)
YEAH. YOU'VE BEEN DODGING THAT QUESTION THIS ENTIRE TIME, BUT I KNOW ALL THE REST.

[True.

It is incompatible. Ford wants him gone, maybe dead. Bill would like himself not gone and has taken great pains to ensure that he is not dead.

The actually, genuinely good thing to do here would be to leave Ford the fuck alone and let him be happy in his own life, without Bill. And not make performative gestures to demand his attention.

Bill is not a good person.]


YOU'RE WELCOME.

... THAT'S WEIRD TO NOT BE THANKED SARCASTICALLY!


[True!

"""""Thanks"""""" for stuffing socks into all the shower drains again, Bill.]


WHAT DO WE... DO NOW?

[This question also means: what are we?]
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[personal profile] tetractys 2018-04-16 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
YEAH, DUH. I WAS GOING TO DO THAT ALREADY!

I MEAN WHAT DO WE DO.
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[personal profile] tetractys 2018-04-17 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
YEAH, SEE, YOU'RE JOKING BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT ME TO KEEP PUSHING THE QUESTION YOU DON'T WANT TO THINK ABOUT.

[True. And now he has to... think.

He's been on the ship long enough that he can get a grip on the concept that if you like someone you want them to be happy. "You want what's good for them" and "An apology should be about the person you hurt, not yourself." blah blah blah.

Well, Bill doesn't want Ford to be happy. He wants Ford to be interested. From Ford's point of view, right now those things are mutually exclusive, and he'd rather be happy. So, the solution is easy in theory, difficult in practice: Bill has to just show him that he can have both.]


IF I WANTED TO GO WITH THAT, I WOULDN'T HAVE COME TO TALK TO YOU. BUT IF THAT'S ALL YOU CAN THINK OF ... I'LL DO IT.

[True.]
Edited 2018-04-17 01:21 (UTC)
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[personal profile] tetractys 2018-04-17 04:45 am (UTC)(link)
[This is going to be so uncomfortable.]

SO WHAT'S THAT LOOK LIKE?

...WANNA LOSE TO ME AT CHESS?

MY CHESS SET SCREAMS! I SHOWED YOU, BUT YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE HAVING A NIGHTMARE.


[true. it's supposed to do things other than scream, but bill is very mean to the tiny chess men.]

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